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New Hampshire International Speedway always makes me nervous.   This year, maybe more so than ever.  The track has seen more than its share of carnage through its history.  Loudon may have been the track that most needed the soft-wall technology of the Safer barriers.   With long straights and sharp, relatively flat corners, the New Hampshire miler will be especially tough on drivers for teams that don’t have the New Car’s special handling requirements figured out.  Missing the set-up could hurt.

The Loose in Turn Three experiment continues this week with Do You NASCAR, Bruce’s NASCAR Bits and Bench Racing with Steve and Charlie each fielding a topic to chew on.  Here’s the Bench Racing hor dourve of the week….

After what we saw at Infineon Raceway, is there still a place for “road-course ringers” in the Cup Series?

Charlie:  If you run a top tier Cup team, your drivers better be able to at least hold their own on the road courses. Your best teams need drivers that can do it all. The ability of most of the regular Sprint Cup drivers to handle the road courses has improved so much that it would take the perfect storm of circumstances to have a non-regular win ANY Cup race.  Only if you have a team that is on the edge of top thirty five contention - or is out of the top thirty five all together - would trying to catch a specialist’s lightning in a bottle be worth disrupting your group’s chemistry.

Bruce:  No.  Only if you’re a 30th and worse team with driver proven to be inefficient on road courses would you even think about it.  Any time a team brings a ringer in, it’s a slap in the face to the regular driver, even if he appears on board, you’re killing his opportunity to accrue valuable driver points.  Everyone either has the talent, or can be taught the skills, if the team really wants to invest in their driver.
 
TZ: Of course any team that’s on the bubble for the top-35 in owner points should consider using specialists at courses like Infineon or Watkins Glen. But, to throw a wrench in your guys’ theory that it’s reserved ONLY for those teams, what about teams like the no. 8 DEI car? You’re already limiting his Cup experience to a measley 8 races this year, so there’s no real logic in making sure that he gets in there at the road courses. Then, there’s also occassions when that teams are well within the top-35, yet have no real loyalty in a multi-year sense to their driver … guys like a Dave Blaney. In this instance, lingering After what we saw at Infineon Raceway, is there still a place for “road
course ringers” in the Cup Series?

That’s what we think.  How ’bout you?  Leave your feedback in the comments section.  After doing that, head over to DoYouNASCAR.com for TZ’s topic for the week…..

After a lackluster 2007 season, can the no. 16 team keep it together long enough through the next 10 races to keep Greg Biffle in Chase contention?

Then check out Bruce’s Bits for this one…
 
Should NASCAR and Sunoco make a concerted effort to convert the sport over to a less fossil fuel centric sport?

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An item came across NASCAR.com and it made me shake my head. Mark Martin one of my 3 favorite drivers in NASCAR history, seems to have made another guarantee. In the story last week at Pocono, he said that he plans on winning at the Brickyard in July. I have no doubt Mark can win the race. I remember 10 years ago at Indy when he had a better car than Jeff Gordon throughout the day, yet couldn’t get around him at the end. I remember when Mark left the 6 for the 01 last year, he said he would have his best chance ever to win the Daytona 500 – and he did, but came up inches short. It saddens me to see someone that’s a traditional pessimist, like Mark, get exciting for something just to be heartbroken again. I felt the heartbreak of the 2002 season because he was so close. Two years later, in the inaugural Chase, Mark arguably had the best team but accidents and bad luck struck again. At that Daytona race 16 months ago, I watched him lead those last several laps as I had a kung-fu grip on a pillow in my room, thinking that maybe, just maybe, this could be the race of his life. It was the race of his life… he finished second again, and I fell to the floor with the air knocked out of my lungs. To be a Mark Martin fan, it’s similar to what being a Red Sox fan must have been like until the 2004 playoffs. In the back of your mind, you know something will happen. I don’t know how many fans understand how much Mark means to his fans, and the heartbreak his fans have gone through with him. Many times, it takes the man himself to keep us fans from going crazy.

Fast forward to this season’s race at Phoenix, which saw Mark lead a bunch of laps and appeared to be on his way to victory. What did Mark have to lose by staying out and gambling? He pitted from the lead, had the best car, so fuel mileage should have been on Tony Gibson’s mind. Yet, it didn’t happen, and surprise, Mark lost. The guarantee at Indianapolis is interesting. He qualified well at Pocono, yet seemed to fall back more and more during the race. DEI seems to be focusing on Truex and Menard at the moment, which is perfectly understandable. The prospect of Truex leaving would put one foot in the ground, I don’t see anyone tearing down the door to get into DEI the way guys would at Gibbs right now. In a certain sense, I think Mark may have to win at Indy to keep DEI relevant. Rumors swirl about the future of the Army sponsorship, given that the 01 has had limited sponsorship, and Bass Pro Shops could be leaving for Tony Stewart’s revamped Haas Racing.

I didn’t like the movie Groundhog Day. I hate recurring dreams. Most of all, I know deep down that Mark Martin won’t win the Brickyard this year. He’ll have a flat tire with 3 to go, he’ll get crashed out by a car 9 laps down, he’ll blow his engine on the white flag lap. The worst part? I’ll still be making him my pick to win. Some habits won’t go away.

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Kasey Kahne had the field covered at Pocono on Sunday.

Kahne beat Brian Vickers and perennial Pocono winner Denny Hamlin to the finish line for his second win in three weeks. After a race that found many of NASCAR’s elite complaining about everything at Pocono except trees, Kahne looked refreshed when he stepped out of his Budweiser Dodge.

Kahne had to battle back from 36th place after a botched pit stop forced him to return to pit lane to complete a four tire stop. Originally crew chief Kenny Francis called off a four tire stop to just take two, but not everyone got the message and lugnuts had already been removed from the drivers side of the race car when Kahne sped away. Francis explained it this way:

I got us in a pretty big hole there at the beginning of the race, just tried to take two tires, called off a four tire stop and called a two tire stop, and I thought I saw the tire changer out of the corner of my eye and didn’t realize he had hit some lugnuts already in the front, and got us all the way in the back, 36 or something. And Kasey did a great job driving it back up through the field.

Numerous drivers took pot shots at the racetrack over the week, complaining about the quality of the racing surface, the length of the race itself and the heat. Which leads us to this week’s BUZZ ON PIT ROW:

What should NASCAR do about the races at Pocono?

Let us know what you think about the buzz and we may use your reply on this week’s show. Check out ON PIT ROW at www.onpitrow.com tuesday at 5pm ET, followed by INSIDE ARCA.

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The countdown to Joey Logano’s debut at Dover can be counted in hours now. The Joe Gibbs Racing driver has won all he can in lower levels, including Hooters ProCup at the age of 15, outdueling Kevin Harvick in an East-West Touring Series showdown in Iowa at the age of 16, winning the Busch East championship (and 6 races in the process) at the age of 17, and a dominant performance in his ARCA debut earlier this month at Rockingham, all the while testing Gibbs cars across the country. The hype machine has been in overdrive for Logano for a while now, and his debut will come at a challenging track, Dover’s 1-mile concrete oval.

For a lot of fans that pay attention to the lower series and have their eye on the next big driver, Logano has been on the radar for a few years now. When Mark Martin made his first of many retirement announcements, he proclaimed the driver he wanted to see take over his car – in 2005, mind you – was then-15 year-old Joey Logano. That was heady praise for someone few had heard of, and set off a bidding war for his services. (A bit of an aside: Logano had signed a deal with Roush in 2005 to become a development driver, and used an old Martin car to test. Then, Joe Gibbs Racing stepped in and signed a contract with his father, and in effect “stole” Logano from the Roush camp.) In every series and every car he has strapped himself into, this kid has only gotten better. The true test will come, and it will come soon. It seems that every few years the storyline shifts to a new “phenom” making their debut in the #2 series as soon as they turn 18. The first of these was Kyle Busch’s 2003 debut at Charlotte in May, a race in which he ran impressively and led a good portion of the race before recording a strong finish. Fast forward a year or two later, and that phenom was Reed Sorenson making his debut in the #41 at Atlanta, and running in the top 5 most of the day. In those cases, the youngsters ran extremely well.

From everything that I’ve seen about his schedule, he is slated for 18 races from now until the end of the season. In my estimation, he’ll be making a Sprint Cup start before the Chase begins. But it all begins this weekend.

To paraphrase one of my favorite lines all-time from a racing movie…

“Pete, do you ever get tired of (substitute “bored with”) the racing? Lately, sometimes I get very tired.” (ditto)

Ferrari driver Jean Pierre Sarti to Yamura pilot Pete Aaron in “Grand Prix”.

As popular as NASCAR is, people are never satisfied. That’s probably good. Mike Mulhern has a proposition to make things more exciting…

A simple proposition – give one bonus point for each lap a driver leads. If a man leads 150 laps at Daytona, he gets 150 bonus points, for example.
Or perhaps, considering tracks are different lengths, give one bonus point for each mile a driver leads.

Mike contends, and I agree, that putting all of that value on leading laps would make for much more competitive racing for the lead. More lead passes - more exciting races.

That’s what he thinks. What about you? How would you spice up Cup racing?

Put your suggestion in the comment section and I’ll pick a favorite or two and send those people a copy of “Daytona 500: 50 Years of the Great American Race” from A&E Home Video.

Our last contest was won by the Reverend Jim. Don’t let him win again.

The Shrub, won his third straight Nationwide Series race Sunday at the Autodromo Hermanos Rodriguez outside Mexico City. In order to pull that off, Rowdy Busch had to pass Scott Pruett, one of America’s very best, veteran road racers.

And don’t tell yourself that Pruett has a habit of getting passed at the end of these things. He doesn’t. He usually wins. Sure, Juan Pablo Montoya bumped past Scott in this very same event, at a similar stage of the race last year. But Juan Pablo is an acknowledged, world class, road course master. There is no shame in being passed by JPM.

Scott Pruett is 48 and has had a long successful career in just about anything with wheels. Juan Pablo is an Indy 500 and Formula One Grand Prix winner. Kyle Busch, at something like 22, is already a 27 time winner in NASCAR’s top three series. That’s amazing!

This latest win was Kyle The Younger’s first ever on a road course too. AP has this quote….

“It’s fun to be able to win on a road course because there’s only certain guys that tend to be able to do it,” Busch said. “My first year, first year and a half … I was terrible. I sort of picked up on it a little bit, somehow.”

Yeah, I guess. So now Kurt’s little brother leads the Nationwide and Craftsman Truck Series and sits an ominous second in the Sprint Cup Race to the Chase. Is he the best of the NASCAR best?

He might be. Sure, equipment plays a big part in success on the track. But to get a chance to drive the best cars - for the best teams - you have to be one of the most talented drivers. Kyle is.

Many vaunted athletes have been put in what appeared to be the perfect circumstances in which to thrive. Plenty have choked. Tiger Woods didn’t. Kyle Busch hasn’t.

After finishing second at this year’s Masters, Woods will have to wait until next year to make another attempt at Pro Golf’s Grand Slam. I hope Rowdy will decide to run the whole schedule of NASCAR’s majors. Taking the NASCAR Grand Slam would leave no doubt in my mind who the best in NASCAR was.

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I was invited to participate in this blogging experiment called “Loose in turn three”. The three refers in this case to the fact that three NASCAR bloggers will give their individual takes on three different subjects each week. This all was the brain-child of Tim Zaegel of Do You NASCAR? Bruce Simmons of Bruce’s NASCAR Bits and Pieces is the third leg of this stool so make sure you check out those great blogs if you haven’t already. Make sure you leave your comments. Let’s get this turkey on the road.

Has Joe Gibbs Racing positioned themselves as “the team to beat” in NASCAR?

TZ - I’ve never hid the fact that I’m an avid Tony Stewart fan, and I’m constantly pulling for the 20 car to get out front each and every race. I came into the ‘08 season unsure of what to expect from the JGR camp after making the jump to the Toyota brand, and quite honestly, I questioned their ability to compete for the championship in their inaugural series with them. Since then, they’ve come out of the gate dominating the laps led category and winning two of the first six points races. That said, they’ve also had several parts failures between Hamlin’s water pump issue and Kyle Busch breaking gears at Martinsville. I think that the season’s just too long, and the Toyota program isn’t quite where it needs to be just yet to sustain the entire Cup season for any of the Gibbs boys to bring home the big paycheck after Homestead. There’s just too many question marks still
lingering in my mind.

Bruce - Pshaw! I can’t tell if they’re the team to beat, the team to ignore while Jack rants about irrelevant things or the team everyone is going to wait for in the race to fall apart. Like you Tim, I wasn’t sure what to expect, but I didn’t think a power horse like Gibbs would match up with Toyota without good reason, and visa versa! Yet I can’t help but wonder about karma. IE: The bad luck they’ve had up until Denny’s win. We have a mystery sway bar that they wait until March to make noise about and probably won’t be seeking legal action now (why not?) and then there’s the oil pan cover and their decision to not fight the infraction (why not?). And then they have two of the hottest mouths in Cup with Stewart and Kyle Busch. I assume they doubled their PR department to keep up with both of them. As far as the paycheck at the end of the season: They’ll get over this sophomore hump and get back on track.. they only have to get into the top 12 by the 27th race to have a shot at the cup and I think that’s doable for them except Ky Busch who keeps taking chances when he’s already got the race covered! (Don’t get me started on 28% of the field being able to contend for the Cup!)

Charlie - Joe Gibbs Racing is one of the five best teams in NASCAR and the fact that they won their second race of 2008 at Martinsville confirms that and the fact that Toyota is a factor right now, despite only a bit over a year in cup. But is JGR the team to beat? No. Hendrick Motorsports is still the team to beat. The fact that both Gibbs and Roush have been able to do that a couple times only shows me that the Hendrick haters have some hope this year. But it’s too early to anoint a new “chosen team”. Give it until the second Daytona race at least.

Those highly touted 2008 rookies haven’t done much so far. Who is your favorite after six races to be Rookie of the Year?

Charlie - I picked Sam Hornish Jr. at the start and I am going to stick with my
pick. Sam has had some disappointing finishes since Daytona, but so have the rest
of the contenders. Look for Hornish to run well at Texas and maybe catch a break
from the stock car gods for a change. But keep an eye on Michael McDowell. He has
a longer resume than most fans know and he ran the whole ARCA Re/Max Series last
year - winning four races and the ROY for that circuit.

TZ – When faced with this question two months ago, there was no doubt in my mind
that Dario Franchitti would be a lock for Rookie of the Year in 2008, but from what
I’ve seen in the first six races, I’d have to say that he’s turned out to be possibly the least impressive driver in this year’s rookie class. Hornish was impressive at Daytona and hasn’t done much since then, but I think he takes this one completely by default. McDowell might be decent, but at this point, I wouldn’t put my money on anyone in the MWR garage. Regan Smith could potentially be the breakout star in this group, but again, nothing’s safe when you’re talking about DEI. Carpentier’s the guy that I think could compete with Hornish if he had been afforded the luxury of guaranteed starts in the first five races like Sam was, but that wasn’t the case.

Bruce - It is definitely a lack luster bunch. I think Regan Smith might pull it out in the long run. Hornish is just blowing his chances as he keeps twisting up sheet metal like he did last year. McDowell sure had an impressive first start at Martinsville.. even if it did tick off the front runners.

Do You Think Dale Jr will make the Chase this year?

Bruce - Judging from the fact that he’s got 5 top 10’s in 6 races, seems to always be
up at the front at some point, I think the only thing they have to figure out is how to get used to always being up towards the front these days.

Charlie - Yeah, of course I think he’s going to make. I also think that he should make it - since he’s with the best team and has the advantage of a nice first even races. But that doesn’t mean he’s GOING to make the Chase. Things happen. A couple of bad finishes and people start talking about you like you can’t drive at all. Ask Casey Mears or Jamie McMurray. Junior has had slumps before - and they weren’t all the fault of his DEI team. Earnhardt runs a different race line than nearly anyone else – always flirting with disaster in the high line, against the wall. When it works, he’s fast. When it doesn’t work - and the new car is squirrelier than the old one - he wrecks. He’ll make the Chase if his tactics work often enough.

TZ - Charlie, I think you bring up an absolutely great point with the fact that Junior runs a completely different line than the rest of the field more often than not, and I agree, once in awhile that can be his huge downfall. Here’s my thing, though … for a few years now, I’ve firmly believed that Dale Junior is one of the most overrated drivers on the track. That’s not to say that he’s a bad driver or that he’ll never be able to win a Cup championship, I’m just saying that he’s not “the Intimidator,” and he never will be. That said, he was able to compete for a spot in the Chase last year even through all of the turmoil and controversy that he put himself in, and he should really have no problem cracking the top twelve with a Hendrick motor under the hood. He’s more than capable to make the Chase, and I believe he’s shown that so far, even if it has only been six races.

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Bill Elliott’s decision to not drive the #21 Little Debbie Ford this weekend at Bristol Motor Speedway will doom the Wood Brothers.

The once proud race team that has seen wins at the hands of Cale Yarborough, David Pearson and AJ Foyt has sunk to 44th in owner points. Without Elliott in the car for this weekend’s race, they will not race because qualifying has been rained out. The only way the car would have made the race is with Elliott behind the wheel, using his past champions provisional. Without that fall back positionand with Jeff Green slated to fill in for Elliott, the rain out of qualifying keeps the team on the sidelines.

Elliott chose to switch his driving commitment from Bristol, this weekend, to Martinsville, the week after Easter. And by doing so, has signed the death certificate of the Wood Brothers racing team. This was the very reason to bring in Elliott to begin with–to get the team into the show when it needed to. This was a race that they had to be in. Elliott has undermined that effort.

Without being in the race this weekend, the 21 car will need to have a past champs free ride the rest of the season to make races. When Elliott runs out of freebies, who will they turn to next? By then Dale Jarrett will be available. How about Rusty Wallace? Desperate? You bet. And why?

Ask Bill what was more important. The team he was hired to save, he has all but killed.

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Getting ready for two straight short track weekends with trivial facts about the track in Thunder Valley.

500- Scheduled laps in the race this Sunday

257- Laps led in the spring race last year by Tony Stewart on his way to a 35th place finish

94 - Total number of Cup races run at Bristol Motor Speedway

90 - Laps run under caution during the 2007 spring race

77 - Number of races won from a top 10 starting position

57 - The number of Bristol Cup starts by Ricky Rudd without a win. Ever.

50 - Where you start might mean something - 50 winners started in the top four

42 - That’s how many starters there were for the first ever race at Bristol

41 - Different pole winners, with 19 drivers having done it more than once

38 - Where Elliott Sadler started from and won in 2001 - the farthest back of any winner

37 - Most Bristol wins by manufacturer goes to the Bow-tie boys

36 - Number of different winners

22 - Top fives all-time by Rusty Wallace

21 - The number of years where a Bristol winner has gone on to win the Championship

21 - Junior Johnson won more races at Bristol than any other owner, including 8 in a row

19 - The number of cars that finished that first ever race - out of 42

17 - Country singer Brenda Lee was 17 when she sang the anthem at that first race

14.908 - First ever sub 15 second lap turned in by Ryan Newman in 2003 - still the record

12 - Most wins by a driver goes to Jaws, hissownself, Darrell Waltrip, including 7 straight

10.3 - Greg Biffle’s average finish - best of the active best

9 - Most Bristol poles, by Cale Yarborough. Also the second most wins at the track, held by Cale, Earnhardt Sr and Rusty. Jack Roush leads active car owners with 9 wins, too.

5.5 - Jeff Gordon’s average start in 30 races - nobody’ even close

5 - Wins by Gordon and Kurt Busch. Also the number of different drivers to win for Junior Johnson

4 - Consecutive years that Jeff Gordon won the Food City 500

3 - Times Jeff Burton has finished second

2 - Wins by Matt Kenseth and Mark Martin

1 - Win in 55 starts for Terry Labonte

.533 - Miles around the bowl

Zero - Chance of a caution free race

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Carl Edwards put a second straight whuppin’ on the Sprint Cup field in the UAW Dodge 400 at Las Vegas Motor Speedway Sunday. About now he should be preparing for the spanking that NASCAR is going to give him and the Roush Racing Office Depot Ford.

Edwards’ race car failed post-race inspection. The lid for the oil tank was missing. Several Nationwide Series teams were docked points, cash and had crew chiefs suspended for similar infractions last week. Scene Dailey has this quote from NASCAR.

NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston said he wasn’t sure where the oil tank cover was found, only that it was off the tank. The victory still stands, he said.

“We’ll take the 99 back to the [Research and Development] Center [in Concord, N.C.], take a look at it there, and if there are any actions that will be taken, we’ll make that announcement as we normally do next week,” Poston said.

At his presser, Carl talked about overcoming adversity a couple times during the race. You can view Carl’s video here. With the way NASCAR has been coming down hard on most infractions - see Robby Gordon - Edwards should prepare for the worst and enjoy leading the Sprint Cup Series points. Its not looking like it’s going to last.

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